Pakistan Is a Threat to the UK…
Pakistan is a far greater threat to the UK directly than any single other Muslim country simply because probably the majority of the UK Muslim population, originate from there. However, I would hesitate to claim that the majority of Pakistani citizens or British citizens of Pakistani origins are any threat in terms of jihad, though a small number may be.
In the UK, those that are a threat are young men who want to “be heroes” and impressionable young men such as these are easily manipulated. However, the situation in Pakistan is very different as people there, rather like Palestinians living in Gaza, will inevitably get caught up in local events, blame the US, Britain rather than accept responsibility for their own actions.
This would not be a problem except that because of the family connections, the negative feedback can get amplified in the UK and particularly among the young. Personally I have every empathy with the plight many British Muslims find themselves in like my Irish Catholic ancestors, they are viewed as the “enemy within” and that helps nobody.
Tribal Societies
The problem with all “tribal societies” and especially Muslim ones lies in the subjugation of women and in the latter case, in the name of religion and this one thing is a major barrier to such societies progressing both economically and socially. This so called jihad has little to nothing to do with Islam and most to do with these societies preserving their male dominated way of life.
I think that we in the West should stand back and rethink our approach to all of this. The first issue is a lesson we should have learned from Iraq, you cannot impose western standards on every country, you most certainly cannot impose “democracy” because it must live deep within the soul of every citizen, it is not a commodity that can be exported. Secondly, if people in Pakistan and Afghanistan want to live in the Middle Ages, is it our right or duty to stop them ? I think not.
If we look at these two countries, whose real problem are they, ours or their neighbours ? If the truth is their neighbours as is certainly the case, let them deal with it, why should NATO and US forces do so, bleed, die and be committed there for the next 20 years ? From a purely moral perspective, if we won’t send forces into Zimbabwe to rescue starving people from a power mad Junta led by Mugabe, how can we justify being in Afghanistan ?
The Nuclear Threat
Okay in terms of both Pakistan and Iran, there is another dimension in terms of a nuclear threat but the reality is that is push comes to shove and their threat becomes ‘real’ through their posturing and behaviour, the West won’t invade them, but it may well send in selected nuclear strikes which would be devastating rather than cosmetic so that the threat is neutralized once and for all.
This would not be pleasant because the casualties both immediate and delayed over decades would be appalling but sadly, mankind seems constantly to be reminded through fresh lessons what they should have understood without repeat, from Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
I grew up and lived with the “4 minute warning” and the posible nuclear destruction of the UK during the Cold War. I can remember sitting up until 3 in the morning to hear JFK make his “Cuban Missiles Speech”, I can still hear Nikita Kruschev threatening to “…destroy that aircraft carrier off the European coast”, it was very, very real indeed.
Eventually equilibrium was reached with MAD – Mutually Assured Destruction and gradually through ongoing Treaties over many years, the threat was reduced, the Cold War cooled…
To this day, I cannot understand the lunatics in India, Pakistan, North Korea and Iran who want to have these awful weapons which frankly are virtually unusable and oddly by the same token, if I were PM, would have no hesitation in launching a Trident strike against any of them if required, they all need to learn to walk away from this shit. We need new treaties and new efforts to ensure these weapons are put beyond use by all which includes the West.
Trying to Get It Right and Fair…
If we accept that countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan have every right to decide what kind of country they live in, so too do we in the United Kingdom. By the same token, anybody who wants to live here must also live by our rules or leave these islands.
We need to dismantle and repeal the vast majority of piss poor legislation bought in since 1997, repeal the Human Rights Act and leave, the ‘political EU’. We need to re-establish the basis of fairness under British Law and never have abominations like the 42 Day Detention without charge law on our statute book. We also need to repatriate the Rule of Law to the UK and walk away from any European jurisdiction on our affairs.
We may need to be very specific with regard to Pakistan and tightly control visits via visas and so on to restrict travel both ways. Except in exceptional circumstances, put an end to arranged marriages, they are a total nonsense for young people with Indian Sub Continent connections to be involved in regardless of whether Muslim, Hindu or Sikh.
The issues that young men and women born in the UK to parents of Asian origins are most likely not understood by their parents properly and ‘importing’ a bride or husband from the Indian Sub Continent who also doesn’t share their experiences, is total nuts. We do need to clamp down on any young girl being taken out of school and sent there on a “holiday” from which she never returns because she has been married off to some distant 50 year old cousin. We may need to pass laws that have very heavy financial penalties or even potential deportation if the rights of a British citizen even though a child, are compromised even by his/her parents, we need to be fair to all but, very serious too.
Protect entry and departure in the UK rigorously for all citizens of all countries and impose visa restrictions as appropriate. People of Asian origins need to decide what kind of life they want to live and where. If they want to remain in the UK, their rights including freedom of expression and religion will be upheld but in return, they must support the society they are resident in, there can be no half in or half out measures, either you are British and subject to the same temporal laws or, you are something else.

As someone of Bangladeshi extraction, I agree with your sentiments.