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		<title>By: Geoff Cook</title>
		<link>http://baldysblog.co.uk/2009/03/19/verging-on-the-ridiculous/comment-page-1/#comment-1726</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former UK train spotter, now Stateside and chasing aircraft, I am always amazed at how poorly the rail and aviation industry treat enthusiasts.. Would Manchester United treat their fans with such disdain? 

There are large groups of people, pro-rail and pro-aviation. I use my passion and knowledge of railways and aircraft to explain situations to less informed friends and colleagues. In these times of recession, I encourage people to travel. 

I know who works at my local airport (Providence RI), just as I knew who worked at my local station. (Stevenage). I know enough not to leave bags unattended, and if I see anything suspicious, I have my cell phone to make a call to local law enforcement. With my camera I can even take a photo should it be needed.. Wasnt there a problem in the Reading/Basingstoke area a few years back where BTP were asking for any rail enthusiast photos? 

Lets be honest, a terrorist who has the intention of inflicting carnage is hardly going to be worried at some pissant telling them they cant take a photo. At worst, they will come back another day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former UK train spotter, now Stateside and chasing aircraft, I am always amazed at how poorly the rail and aviation industry treat enthusiasts.. Would Manchester United treat their fans with such disdain? </p>
<p>There are large groups of people, pro-rail and pro-aviation. I use my passion and knowledge of railways and aircraft to explain situations to less informed friends and colleagues. In these times of recession, I encourage people to travel. </p>
<p>I know who works at my local airport (Providence RI), just as I knew who worked at my local station. (Stevenage). I know enough not to leave bags unattended, and if I see anything suspicious, I have my cell phone to make a call to local law enforcement. With my camera I can even take a photo should it be needed.. Wasnt there a problem in the Reading/Basingstoke area a few years back where BTP were asking for any rail enthusiast photos? </p>
<p>Lets be honest, a terrorist who has the intention of inflicting carnage is hardly going to be worried at some pissant telling them they cant take a photo. At worst, they will come back another day.</p>
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		<title>By: baldy</title>
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		<dc:creator>baldy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basil

Always remember, if you never have a dream, you can never have a dream come true - best of luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basil</p>
<p>Always remember, if you never have a dream, you can never have a dream come true &#8211; best of luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Basil Brown</title>
		<link>http://baldysblog.co.uk/2009/03/19/verging-on-the-ridiculous/comment-page-1/#comment-1723</link>
		<dc:creator>Basil Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baldy,

Ah, Concorde. So very beautiful and, yes, iconic. Roars British [plus just a tinsy bit of French possibly perhaps, if we really must etc. etc.] self-confidence and the technological optimism of the late 60s. Animate, somehow. A living thing. [Well, its face could do expressions.]

Enthusiasts. They&#039;re great. Horribly misrepresented in popular kulture. These are people who are absorbed by interests outside of themselves; who develop levels of expertise borne of passion - and there&#039;s none better than that. No amount of &quot;customer care&quot; training will make an employee care if they don&#039;t already.

There&#039;s little or no ego involved. As a middle-age working/hobby pub-musician at the chuff-end of the entertainment industry, I fantasise about retiring to a steam-powered canal-boat and getting really interested in locks or something, in the manner of an assembly-worker dreaming of sunlight over green fields.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baldy,</p>
<p>Ah, Concorde. So very beautiful and, yes, iconic. Roars British [plus just a tinsy bit of French possibly perhaps, if we really must etc. etc.] self-confidence and the technological optimism of the late 60s. Animate, somehow. A living thing. [Well, its face could do expressions.]</p>
<p>Enthusiasts. They&#8217;re great. Horribly misrepresented in popular kulture. These are people who are absorbed by interests outside of themselves; who develop levels of expertise borne of passion &#8211; and there&#8217;s none better than that. No amount of &#8220;customer care&#8221; training will make an employee care if they don&#8217;t already.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s little or no ego involved. As a middle-age working/hobby pub-musician at the chuff-end of the entertainment industry, I fantasise about retiring to a steam-powered canal-boat and getting really interested in locks or something, in the manner of an assembly-worker dreaming of sunlight over green fields.</p>
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		<title>By: baldy</title>
		<link>http://baldysblog.co.uk/2009/03/19/verging-on-the-ridiculous/comment-page-1/#comment-1722</link>
		<dc:creator>baldy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Basil

&quot;I don’t like the idea of marked “zones” for spotters&quot;

I know what you mean but some years back, living near Heathrow and being a keen photographer, I wanted my own still and videos of the &quot;iconic&quot; Concorde&#039;s last flights. Although &quot;plane spotters&quot; may be considered as sad as &quot;train spotters&quot;, in fact and as I got to know them, they were a brilliant bunch.

Fully equipped with radios tuned to the correct frequency, they were a life saver because they knew when it was coming/going and could point you to the right sector of sky etc.

We often take the &quot;hiss&quot; out of enthusiasts of all kinds - &quot;The Sealed Knot&quot; for example and yet they have much to share to even the most casual observer. The other thing I found was that in true &#039;Britishness&#039; they were happy to laugh at themselves but still continue doing what they liked.

Before Concorde&#039;s last flights, I was a muddle class snob, by their generosity, I was humbled and will never again question a true &quot;enthusiast&quot;, they are brilliant !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Basil</p>
<p>&#8220;I don’t like the idea of marked “zones” for spotters&#8221;</p>
<p>I know what you mean but some years back, living near Heathrow and being a keen photographer, I wanted my own still and videos of the &#8220;iconic&#8221; Concorde&#8217;s last flights. Although &#8220;plane spotters&#8221; may be considered as sad as &#8220;train spotters&#8221;, in fact and as I got to know them, they were a brilliant bunch.</p>
<p>Fully equipped with radios tuned to the correct frequency, they were a life saver because they knew when it was coming/going and could point you to the right sector of sky etc.</p>
<p>We often take the &#8220;hiss&#8221; out of enthusiasts of all kinds &#8211; &#8220;The Sealed Knot&#8221; for example and yet they have much to share to even the most casual observer. The other thing I found was that in true &#8216;Britishness&#8217; they were happy to laugh at themselves but still continue doing what they liked.</p>
<p>Before Concorde&#8217;s last flights, I was a muddle class snob, by their generosity, I was humbled and will never again question a true &#8220;enthusiast&#8221;, they are brilliant !</p>
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		<title>By: Unkle Dysfunktional</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unkle Dysfunktional</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In other words – Stop Being Prats and work with the grain, not against it !&quot;

No chance.  You&#039;re assuming intelligence where there is none.  You&#039;re assuming an ability to apply rules intelligently and equitably as appropriate.  Instead some silly little Doris wants to prove how she&#039;s the BOSS LADY and an old man MUST OBEY.

I frequently wonder if Hitler was a woman.  Why&#039;s it always bloody women who have to act by the utter letter of the rules, whereas us blokes can actually interpret them? it&#039;s enough to drive one towards misogyny at times......

Oh, and don&#039;t bother travelling by Virgin Trains.  They&#039;re late, smelly, overpriced and crap.  Don&#039;t even get me started on that one.................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In other words – Stop Being Prats and work with the grain, not against it !&#8221;</p>
<p>No chance.  You&#8217;re assuming intelligence where there is none.  You&#8217;re assuming an ability to apply rules intelligently and equitably as appropriate.  Instead some silly little Doris wants to prove how she&#8217;s the BOSS LADY and an old man MUST OBEY.</p>
<p>I frequently wonder if Hitler was a woman.  Why&#8217;s it always bloody women who have to act by the utter letter of the rules, whereas us blokes can actually interpret them? it&#8217;s enough to drive one towards misogyny at times&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh, and don&#8217;t bother travelling by Virgin Trains.  They&#8217;re late, smelly, overpriced and crap.  Don&#8217;t even get me started on that one&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Basil Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Basil Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like the idea of marked &quot;zones&quot; for spotters, but otherwise your comments re: unpaid security-guards make complete sense. These are observant people who really care about the railway!

In fact, who better to &lt;i&gt;run&lt;/i&gt; a railway than railway enthusiasts? A visit to any of our preserved lines bears testament to the skills and competence of these fine people. [As well as the clear superiority on every level of the old railways over the new. Harumph.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like the idea of marked &#8220;zones&#8221; for spotters, but otherwise your comments re: unpaid security-guards make complete sense. These are observant people who really care about the railway!</p>
<p>In fact, who better to <i>run</i> a railway than railway enthusiasts? A visit to any of our preserved lines bears testament to the skills and competence of these fine people. [As well as the clear superiority on every level of the old railways over the new. Harumph.]</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good blog, and thanks for your comment on mine about the same subject. The suggestion that trainspotters might make useful security people seems like an excellent idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good blog, and thanks for your comment on mine about the same subject. The suggestion that trainspotters might make useful security people seems like an excellent idea.</p>
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